i have heard there were many repercussions at the greene st. usps branch that are worth investigating further. i have heard that more than 10 people lost jobs or were transferred. the postal police are now routinely stopping carriers to check on them with breath-alizers, there are now random urine tests, etc. this branch, sadly, has been notoriously bad in many ways and where i don't much agree with the way fox went about finding these men out, the fact that the branch postmaster and the powers that be were unwilling, unable, or incapable of ensuring this behavior was not tolerated says more about the branch and the usps than their 'outing'. the system is broke, indeed, and sentimentality is not strictly an answer to fixing it.

That whole development project at Devon and Sydney was built in a drunken stupor. Maybe they drank because of the chemicals on the site. They used to throw their beers cans in my yard and hide their gin bottles on my property. My mail carriers were never drunk but constantly drop off mail that doesn't belong there even when I put signs on the door. The community didn't care that my home or neighborhood was under siege for years by drunk and fighting construction crew who would sleep over and party loud all night while they ran the project into bankruptcy and the civic leaders allowed it. I think the mail persons probably need to drink. It's nice the community is giving them a second chance. They never gave me any chance at all, just kept sending me to the hospital because they refused to keep their special project in order. I would like to drink more but mercury poisoning from the site prevents it.

This is all well and good until one of our kids is hit by a postal truck.

The Postmaster was not immediatley available for comment ?? oh yea ,he must have been busy !! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL !!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah they deserved a warning first. Stealing time by sitting in a bar while on the clock. Lying by scanning copies of barcodes to provide false evidence that they were someplace they weren't. Breaking the law by driving while intoxicated and putting everyone on the road and street in danger. Yeah, lets give the poor guys a warning and a second chance!

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The NALC will be able to work out a last chance agreement for these stiffs . The hard cold facts are that local management was punished for these carriers blatant indiscretions and thats all upper postal leaders are concerned with. It's much more profitable to fire and punish your EAS staff and then bring back those two slugs on a short leash. I love the petition that stated one of these carriers was getting their route delivered by 1:00pm . Both the carriers and local mangement were in the wrong here , unfortunately the punishment will not fit the crime.

The carriers were 100% wrong and should be fired. The problem is the culture in the usps does not allow for consequences. Management is not allowed to discuss a pending removal outside of grievance process. The postmaster will not make astatement. If he does the union will utilize it to get the carriers jobs back. The union will use petitions and engage in Other activities prohibited in the contract. ELM code ethics. Accept responsibilty for your actions. Carriers are expected to work unsupervised and need to be trustworthy

They had there chance. This is year 2011, not the early 80's when drinking wasn't a big thing. It is now and not on the job. Now lets get Fox29 follow those USPS managers when the weather gets nice leaving and getting paid to play golf all day. Just because they are a salary job doesn't mean they don't have to put the time in at work. It works both ways. The USPS is losing so much money they are now in the Philly district making it manditory to do street supervision on every carrier. What a waste of money. Who is watching them steeling time which is money?

Zero tolerance should be just that, zero tolerance! They knew when they took the job what was required of them. It was told to everyone who went through orientation never drink on the job or if it's after you have ended your shift not to be in uniform if you do decide to stop for a drink. How difficult is this simple rule to follow? If you value your job, don't sacrifice it by doing stupid stuff like drinking on the clock. Not to mention the "cheating" of the Post Office by scanning their barcodes that are spaced out along the route. They should have never had access to duplicate barcodes. Where was management? They have an obligation also. If they are lucky maybe they could be allowed to take a huge pay cut and become janitors. But, that would be too good for them. That would still give them a secure job with benefits.

psst psst, wanna know a little postal "secret?" a little off the topic of the drunks melvin and rudy
but here it is anyhow. the u. s. postal service claimed losses of over 20 billion dollars$$$$ in the last 4 fiscal years. during this same period postal management has paid out bonuses (pay-for-performance bonuses) each and every one of these years to supervisors and above!! can you imagine? the company is losing billions and management is quietly handing out bonus money to the "boys in the in-club!" and you thought greedy unethical behavior was only on wall street. perhaps the drunks, rudy and melvin, should get there jobs back because postal management has set the example that sleazy , wrong, unethical behavior should be tolerated (and rewarded!) within the postal service by their bonus payment scandal. by the way, the postal service went to court to keep the exact amount paid out in bonuses and to whom it went a secret! they claim
it is a trade secret. the intial court ruling agreed with them!!! amazing! most of this country
is crooked i think!

Nice comment Gilbert.Your a MORON!!This has nothing whatsover to do with race.Just a community supporting these mail carriers.If they were white or whatever,would you make that an issue??Yes they were wrong for drinking on the job.False scans etc... Driving a postal vehicle,possibly(likely)above limits.Yes,they probably will not be reinstated.They have thrown there life and career away.But at least,the community is saying hey,these guys deserve a second chance.Something I would NOT recommend for you if I were asked to sign a petion on your behalf!!

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sad thing is that all us union members pay dues so our beloved union can protect scum bags like this and go as far as getting thier jobs back all the while we go on carring the load and doing our job. Thanks union if ever there were scabs these carriers are worse. I think ill keep my dues!!!!!!!!!

Drinking on the job, bad, possibly another chance. Drinking, actually intoxicated, while operating a vehicle on the job, is intolerable in my opinion. As a city carrier I was sickened by this video. The one key issue, I cannot get past, is the driving while intoxicated. People die every day due to that action. That's why it is illegal. I've seen a clerk get fired for stealing. I think drinking and driving is far worst. Sorry brothers but see ya. You have to go......

There is NO legitimate excuse for these clowns to get their jobs back. Many carriers across the country have been disciplined/lost jobs for much less.

I say let everybody drink on the job. I am sure the unions would support that

Ok why don't we all stop the judgemental rhetoric. These guys got caught drinking on the job. Bad idea and probably deserving of removal but while you're judging, think about cheating on taxes, infidelity, cheating in school or at sports, walking out on your family or not helping a friend, breaking promises, breaking vows, ignoring charities while you play at the casinos. How many of us deserve to judge these guys? I'm just curious.

I have worked for the post office for 26 years as a letter carrier and I like to have a beer as much as the next guy, but there is a time and a place for this and on the clock is not one of them... These IDIOTS deserve to be fired, as you can tell by the video's they have ben doing this for a while, Just look how relaxed they are not even trying to cover up what there doing, or even caring about who may see them.. The people who are trying to reinstate them are their families because now there out of an income of 55,000 or more per year.. I say Kick-em to the curb.

alleged..fox should go after congres and staff who have federaL health insurance..they (GOP)blast government health care..why would they be members of a health plan they despise?

First the mail carriers are on the road, they get a half an hour lunch off the the clock. the usps does pay carriers while on lunch. The carrier has to take their lunch when possible along the route. The usps never loses money, In 2006 the US congress forced the post office to over fund retirement programs so the usps can show an operating loss. This resulted in a 75 billion dollar surplus in the retirement program. that the US Congress is trying to hide this from the public. If it was not for the intentional tampering by the US Congress the usps would average 2 to 5 billion profit. You are being manipulated into a class warfare game by the very people who caused this country crisis- The US Congress, the Banks and media.

I wish I had time to waste like that! If I could finish my route by 1 pm, they would add several hours to my route.

Where are the supervisors that should be aware of this. I am sure they knew, but for whatever reason, they let it slide. Meanwhile, I have to stress over asking for legitimate overtime on my route, when it is severely overburdened.

I can't believe this neighborhood let them get by with it for so long.

While I believe the union should help these thieves and DWI potential killers to present their best case, the union should in no wise try to get their jobs back!!! These guys blew it, not once, but apparently screwed the post office, the public, and their fellow carriers every single day for no telling how long.

What other carriers had routes that were too long because somehow these guys obviously manipulated their route checks, if any, to give them so much free time.

The public deserves better credibility in their letter carriers.

It amazes me how so many of these people that can get away with manipulating their mail count inspections. They go so slow it is ridiculous. I know of a carrier who is through with his route in less than 4 hours but will find himself a hiding spot until it is time to go in. He has a mounted route with a hundred less stops than my route which is all walking and I get more dps than he does.

Isn't cheating the federal govt a federal crime, punishable by imprisonment?